Well Thanks Horsehappy and Admin, I am still wanting to go forward with this but it will be slow, have to come up wiht the $$ for the added and advertising, arena, timers, announcers, worker bees, insurance and all that type of stuff will have to be considered. Of course I am so happy about all this stupid weather right now on top of it. All ducks have to be in a row before you can make a go of it. Need to know if people think, futurity like other people do or if the big idea of making it an open 4D or 5D with special pay for nominated stud offspring for the first couple of years. Lots of stuff and most people don't really say what they would prefer. I want something that is not just for the futurity horses but aged ones as well and the only way to have a large crowd is to make it divisional so that a person can pick up the entries from the general barrel horse population and not just trainers. Well what do you all think? OPTIONS PLEASE[eek]